Comments on: What's the deal with these teams? http://www.timlinden.com/blog/traffic-exchanges/whats-deal-teams/ feels like you punching me in face with orange Sat, 11 Feb 2012 05:44:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jean Grainger http://www.timlinden.com/blog/traffic-exchanges/whats-deal-teams/#comment-55836 Jean Grainger Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:27:03 +0000 http://www.timlinden.com/blog/?p=1908#comment-55836 Well I am very very late but it was worth reading this so far back I am often near the beginning. A good selection of opinions. The last GDI team I joined went wrong because our team leader got thrown out buy his wife and was off line for weeks. He had no one organised to take over and I got left out in the dark on my own for weeks . They can go wrong for a miriad of reasons mostly poor organisation and just running out of steam. Been on a new business social network this week and I am finding out how it is done (those who do well at the top I mean) all I ever recruit are dead beats so I may well make it yet I wont let them beat me. Thanks for an interesting post Tim and some very interesting comments. Sorry so late my in box got nobbled and I cant get rid of the e-mails 3000 at the moment and coming in faster than I can delete. I may yet have to abandon it and get another one. Well I am very very late but it was worth reading this so far back I am often near the beginning.

A good selection of opinions. The last GDI team I joined went wrong because our team leader got thrown out buy his wife and was off line for weeks.

He had no one organised to take over and I got left out in the dark on my own for weeks . They can go wrong for a miriad of reasons mostly poor organisation and just running out of steam.

Been on a new business social
network this week and I am finding out how it is done (those who do well at the top I mean) all I ever recruit are dead beats so I may well make it yet I wont let them beat me.

Thanks for an interesting post Tim and some very interesting comments.

Sorry so late my in box got nobbled and I cant get rid of the e-mails 3000 at the moment and coming in faster than I can delete. I may yet have to abandon it and get another one.

]]> By: Inge Vabekk http://www.timlinden.com/blog/traffic-exchanges/whats-deal-teams/#comment-55822 Inge Vabekk Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:40:40 +0000 http://www.timlinden.com/blog/?p=1908#comment-55822 WHY are we hardly seeing any ads from the OceanSwell teams any more? WHY are we hardly seeing any ads from the OceanSwell teams any more?

]]> By: Rob Smith http://www.timlinden.com/blog/traffic-exchanges/whats-deal-teams/#comment-55793 Rob Smith Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:17:04 +0000 http://www.timlinden.com/blog/?p=1908#comment-55793 The elephant in the room here that no one seems to acknowledge is that filling a large matrix is impossible. Not theoretically impossible granted, but practically it is impossible. I know most of us who have thought about it acknowledge that we don't need to FILL a matrix to make money, but look at Joe Newbie who signs up to a team in Traffic Wave that promises him $3000 a month. Joe is going to have to get 5 personals and they are going to have to help him fill down 7 levels to build his organisation to over 3000 members. ... And hope those people at the end of the lines who are not making money , don't suddenly quit. All promoters of programs can only show the 'ideal' picture to show how it works 'if everyone does the same'. But the 'ideal' is never the reality. The often quoted 'average' recruiter gets 2.7 is a statistical average (it may also be an urban myth perpetuated by the industry, who knows?) but in reality a few will recruit thousands and the majority will recruit none! Those non recruiters will be at the ends of your lines and will cause your organisation to implode (but of course you will be continually recruiting to replace them!) Sounds more like a life-time job than a passive income source! Maybe it would be wise to rethink some of the stuff you are trying to convince your recruits about? If you want to stop being a victim find out more at <a href="http://stopbeingavictim.com/?id=ozopps" rel="nofollow"> my website </a> The elephant in the room here that no one seems to acknowledge is that filling a large matrix is impossible. Not theoretically impossible granted, but practically it is impossible.

I know most of us who have thought about it acknowledge that we don't need to FILL a matrix to make money, but look at Joe Newbie who signs up to a team in Traffic Wave that promises him $3000 a month.
Joe is going to have to get 5 personals and they are going to have to help him fill down 7 levels to build his organisation to over 3000 members. ... And hope those people at the end of the lines who are not making money , don't suddenly quit.

All promoters of programs can only show the 'ideal' picture to show how it works 'if everyone does the same'. But the 'ideal' is never the reality.

The often quoted 'average' recruiter gets 2.7 is a statistical average (it may also be an urban myth perpetuated by the industry, who knows?) but in reality a few will recruit thousands and the majority will recruit none! Those non recruiters will be at the ends of your lines and will cause your organisation to implode (but of course you will be continually recruiting to replace them!)

Sounds more like a life-time job than a passive income source!

Maybe it would be wise to rethink some of the stuff you are trying to convince your recruits about?
If you want to stop being a victim find out more at my website

]]> By: Antonio http://www.timlinden.com/blog/traffic-exchanges/whats-deal-teams/#comment-55782 Antonio Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:39:42 +0000 http://www.timlinden.com/blog/?p=1908#comment-55782 Well Guys, I'm so glad you're talking about those 2 companies. It seems that there is no other company in the Internet World. I'm part of those companies I love the products I use the products. I'm also a proud member of TWN- OceanSwell and GDI Fast Track Team. Those teams were never advertised as a Get Rich Quick Scheme and never will be. I strongly suggest each one of you to take a look inside of our program. Those companies offer a free trial and our team do not charge anything. If you are read to give it a try, you are welcome. Well Guys, I'm so glad you're talking about those 2 companies.

It seems that there is no other company in the Internet World.

I'm part of those companies I love the products I use the products.

I'm also a proud member of TWN- OceanSwell and GDI Fast Track Team.

Those teams were never advertised as a Get Rich Quick Scheme and never will be.

I strongly suggest each one of you to take a look inside of our program.

Those companies offer a free trial and our team do not charge anything.

If you are read to give it a try, you are welcome.

]]> By: Barry Houben http://www.timlinden.com/blog/traffic-exchanges/whats-deal-teams/#comment-55779 Barry Houben Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:04:37 +0000 http://www.timlinden.com/blog/?p=1908#comment-55779 A half year ago i started to investigate everything that i could find at the internet and i logged into more than one team, i can say honestly that there are a lot of honest teams outthere because at a certain time after i got several mails from them i got messages that they would quit with taking people in because the profits were to small for everyone. This is one of the things how you can see if a teamleader is honest and knows when to stop placing people in their downlines. When you look at my website you will think..Who is this guy? his website is not finished...and so on...but you can take from me that knowledge is the most important thing you can have in reallife and at the internet before you start any business, just investigate evrything..:) A half year ago i started to investigate everything that i could find at the internet and i logged into more than one team, i can say honestly that there are a lot of honest teams outthere because at a certain time after i got several mails from them i got messages that they would quit with taking people in because the profits were to small for everyone. This is one of the things how you can see if a teamleader is honest and knows when to stop placing people in their downlines. When you look at my website you will think..Who is this guy? his website is not finished...and so on...but you can take from me that knowledge is the most important thing you can have in reallife and at the internet before you start any business, just investigate evrything..:)

]]> By: Barbara Dawson http://www.timlinden.com/blog/traffic-exchanges/whats-deal-teams/#comment-55778 Barbara Dawson Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:13:16 +0000 http://www.timlinden.com/blog/?p=1908#comment-55778 Hi, I signed up for Traffic Wave as I needed an auto responder and that is what it is. I happened to sign up into the Traffic Wave for Profit team. I am glad I did. Their training is awesome. I have learnt lots of things I didn't know. It is advertised as an auto responder not a money machine. Great adtracker too. Barbara Hi,
I signed up for Traffic Wave as I needed an auto responder and that is what it is.
I happened to sign up into the Traffic Wave for Profit team. I am glad I did. Their training is awesome. I have learnt lots of things I didn't know.
It is advertised as an auto responder not a money machine.
Great adtracker too.
Barbara

]]> By: Barry Houben http://www.timlinden.com/blog/traffic-exchanges/whats-deal-teams/#comment-55777 Barry Houben Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:33:26 +0000 http://www.timlinden.com/blog/?p=1908#comment-55777 In my opinion all businesses are pyramid but not all businesses are pyramid schemes, i saw in this blog a link from Gloria with a explanation what a pyramid scheme is. Ofcourse because of the disclaimer in that article i dont know that explanation is 100% truth. I have copyed that link and place it again for anyone who wants to read it again. I live in the netherlands and the people in this country are very against pyramid schemes or anything that has something to do with ""pyramid"". That has something to do with a German lawbreaker who invented the pyramid game. http://www.sec.gov/answers/pyramid.htm In my opinion all businesses are pyramid but not all businesses are pyramid schemes, i saw in this blog a link from Gloria with a explanation what a pyramid scheme is. Ofcourse because of the disclaimer in that article i dont know that explanation is 100% truth. I have copyed that link and place it again for anyone who wants to read it again. I live in the netherlands and the people in this country are very against pyramid schemes or anything that has something to do with ""pyramid"". That has something to do with a German lawbreaker who invented the pyramid game.
http://www.sec.gov/answers/pyramid.htm

]]> By: Patti/silverdark http://www.timlinden.com/blog/traffic-exchanges/whats-deal-teams/#comment-55771 Patti/silverdark Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:37:29 +0000 http://www.timlinden.com/blog/?p=1908#comment-55771 Hi Tim, Great Topic!! Just look at all the comments!! I have to say that Team Atlantis works for me, it took 32 days to get to the top spot in the rotator and about 3 days to get my five sign ups...I Could now make my own team but I haven't the time that is necessary to stay on top of the people signing up...so I will stay on Team Atlantis...Advertise the Team pages as well as my own and any people I sign up directly can also be placed on the rotator as long as they activate their TrafficWave account and promise to promote the team pages...we have a minimum number of ad hits(200/day or 1400/week). This is Tracked(through TrafficWave of course) anyone not meeting the minimum without a Good Reason is Passed Up on the rotator until they meet the min. In my opinion all businesses are in some small way a pyramid scheme...Only the Owner makes more than a Paycheck to be lived on week to week or month to month... Like I said...Just My Opinion...LOL Hi Tim,
Great Topic!! Just look at all the comments!! I have to say that Team Atlantis works for me, it took 32 days to get to the top spot in the rotator and about 3 days to get my five sign ups...I Could now make my own team but I haven't the time that is necessary to stay on top of the people signing up...so I will stay on Team Atlantis...Advertise the Team pages as well as my own and any people I sign up directly can also be placed on the rotator as long as they activate their TrafficWave account and promise to promote the team pages...we have a minimum number of ad hits(200/day or 1400/week). This is Tracked(through TrafficWave of course) anyone not meeting the minimum without a Good Reason is Passed Up on the rotator until they meet the min.
In my opinion all businesses are in some small way a pyramid scheme...Only the Owner makes more than a Paycheck to be lived on week to week or month to month...
Like I said...Just My Opinion...LOL

]]> By: Ivan Golemdzhiyski http://www.timlinden.com/blog/traffic-exchanges/whats-deal-teams/#comment-55761 Ivan Golemdzhiyski Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:21:23 +0000 http://www.timlinden.com/blog/?p=1908#comment-55761 Hello Tim, i have worked alone for 2 months, promoting RQ and got 10 free and 1 paid referrals. When i joined 10kTeam (Jason Wise), i got 2 paid referrals for just 2 weeks... So i think it's good to be in a team, but still need to promote your referral URL. This way you split your web traffic, but this is o.k. for me... Be well Ivan Golemdzhiyski Hello Tim, i have worked alone for 2 months, promoting RQ and got 10 free and 1 paid referrals. When i joined 10kTeam (Jason Wise), i got 2 paid referrals for just 2 weeks...
So i think it's good to be in a team, but still need to promote your referral URL. This way you split your web traffic, but this is o.k. for me...

Be well
Ivan Golemdzhiyski

]]> By: Pete Seal http://www.timlinden.com/blog/traffic-exchanges/whats-deal-teams/#comment-55756 Pete Seal Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:16:07 +0000 http://www.timlinden.com/blog/?p=1908#comment-55756 People are told very clearly that their personal links are tracked and if they do nothing they don't get into the rotator. There are no free rides here Tim People are told very clearly that their personal links are tracked and if they do nothing they don't get into the rotator. There are no free rides here Tim

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